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	<title>Comments on: Nigel&#8217;s Comments About Karen Hauer&#8217;s &#8220;Sensuality&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Ben Franklin</title>
		<link>http://www.puresytycd.com/2009/11/16/nigels-comments-about-karen-hauers-sensuality/comment-page-1/#comment-5781</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Margaret, 

Lauren, Lacey, Sabra, Jeanine, Melody, Chelsie are absolutely beautiful, and some of my favorites---ohh, Lauren and Jeanine, so my type. 

However, I was always upset and bitter when my sexy women were dumped. 

I do agree with you that it is sad for Karen to be put in that situation where she was brought to the forefront. But like I said, it was long overdue to be said. If he did  not, she was still doomed. So I rather he said what he said to show his dis-satisfaction in these ongoing shenanigans. 

Also, I do judge people individually, but it is much funnier to judge people in general. But overall, I am right to believe just how dopey teenagers are.  

Miley Ray, and all bad pop music is the fault of teenagers, and it&#039;s hard for me to forgive them as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Margaret, </p>
<p>Lauren, Lacey, Sabra, Jeanine, Melody, Chelsie are absolutely beautiful, and some of my favorites&#8212;ohh, Lauren and Jeanine, so my type. </p>
<p>However, I was always upset and bitter when my sexy women were dumped. </p>
<p>I do agree with you that it is sad for Karen to be put in that situation where she was brought to the forefront. But like I said, it was long overdue to be said. If he did  not, she was still doomed. So I rather he said what he said to show his dis-satisfaction in these ongoing shenanigans. </p>
<p>Also, I do judge people individually, but it is much funnier to judge people in general. But overall, I am right to believe just how dopey teenagers are.  </p>
<p>Miley Ray, and all bad pop music is the fault of teenagers, and it&#8217;s hard for me to forgive them as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I said people will vote for her because of her personality and if she&#039;s a good dancer I was speaking in general. That&#039;s why Lauren, Lacey, Sabra, Jeanine, Melody, Chelsie, that&#039;s why they stayed so long on the show. So in that way, I agree with you because that makes sense, I just wish Nigel had said that! The reason I even brought this whole thing up in the first place was because I saw the reaction on Karen&#039;s face when Nigel said that, she looked really upset.

it&#039;s pretty obvious looking at someone like Channing who is a beautiful dancer but just couldn&#039;t seem to connect to the audience is the reason she got eliminated, I&#039;m not trying to override that. I understood why she went home.

I&#039;m still not keen on you speaking in general and calling ALL teenage girls stupid, superificial, and silly.

I&#039;ll agree with you on the Miley Cyrus thing though, THAT is something I don&#039;t get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I said people will vote for her because of her personality and if she&#8217;s a good dancer I was speaking in general. That&#8217;s why Lauren, Lacey, Sabra, Jeanine, Melody, Chelsie, that&#8217;s why they stayed so long on the show. So in that way, I agree with you because that makes sense, I just wish Nigel had said that! The reason I even brought this whole thing up in the first place was because I saw the reaction on Karen&#8217;s face when Nigel said that, she looked really upset.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s pretty obvious looking at someone like Channing who is a beautiful dancer but just couldn&#8217;t seem to connect to the audience is the reason she got eliminated, I&#8217;m not trying to override that. I understood why she went home.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still not keen on you speaking in general and calling ALL teenage girls stupid, superificial, and silly.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll agree with you on the Miley Cyrus thing though, THAT is something I don&#8217;t get.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree. I would even go as far to say, &quot;I agree with myself&quot;. 

I think I gave perfect examples of what I was referring to by mentioning past dancers male and females who have the same appeal, but the male dancers get a bye pass, while the women are quickly thrust out into the cold hard world of auditions. 

The successful women on the show have been WAAY less intimidating, however, beautiful as they are. The successful women have been pretty or gorgeous, but never put on an aura of sexiness. That&#039;s the point Nigel was trying to make. Why can Pasha and Dimitri get so far in past seasons, but yet Asuka, Snow (from Season 1) even Anya, Pasha&#039;s PARTNER was voided quickly by the shallow voters? 

Because women/girls usually hate each other and are hostile toward a threatening vamp. 

Nigel was right about Channing, in all honesty (not even wanting to be mean or funny), but really, I would actually forget about her as a contestant on a week to week basis until I saw her. He was mean, but if you have ever went through an audition, Nigel was being a &quot;sweetie pie&quot; by comparison.  In a way, she needed to hear that if she wishes to continue that career. 

Saying &quot;people will vote for her b/c personality and if she’s a good dancer&quot; is disingenuous and incorrect. Past results of all 6 seasons do not backup that point of view. 

And yes, teenage girls are really, really stupid, just ask any girl in her 30&#039;s, and she will tell you she was. However, I&#039;m not saying teenage boys are genius, they are idiots as well. But teenage girls take the title because they are inexperienced, naive, superficial, and silly. Not their fault, just a victim of society. Of course, I&#039;m speaking in general, individuals I judge fairly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree. I would even go as far to say, &#8220;I agree with myself&#8221;. </p>
<p>I think I gave perfect examples of what I was referring to by mentioning past dancers male and females who have the same appeal, but the male dancers get a bye pass, while the women are quickly thrust out into the cold hard world of auditions. </p>
<p>The successful women on the show have been WAAY less intimidating, however, beautiful as they are. The successful women have been pretty or gorgeous, but never put on an aura of sexiness. That&#8217;s the point Nigel was trying to make. Why can Pasha and Dimitri get so far in past seasons, but yet Asuka, Snow (from Season 1) even Anya, Pasha&#8217;s PARTNER was voided quickly by the shallow voters? </p>
<p>Because women/girls usually hate each other and are hostile toward a threatening vamp. </p>
<p>Nigel was right about Channing, in all honesty (not even wanting to be mean or funny), but really, I would actually forget about her as a contestant on a week to week basis until I saw her. He was mean, but if you have ever went through an audition, Nigel was being a &#8220;sweetie pie&#8221; by comparison.  In a way, she needed to hear that if she wishes to continue that career. </p>
<p>Saying &#8220;people will vote for her b/c personality and if she’s a good dancer&#8221; is disingenuous and incorrect. Past results of all 6 seasons do not backup that point of view. </p>
<p>And yes, teenage girls are really, really stupid, just ask any girl in her 30&#8217;s, and she will tell you she was. However, I&#8217;m not saying teenage boys are genius, they are idiots as well. But teenage girls take the title because they are inexperienced, naive, superficial, and silly. Not their fault, just a victim of society. Of course, I&#8217;m speaking in general, individuals I judge fairly.</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ben Franklin, I get what you&#039;re saying, but calling teenage girls the stupidest people on the planet and that girls are horribly hypocritical about sexuality is way harsh. We recognize that the target audience of SYTYCD is female, but it doesn&#039;t mean that we should have to listen to Nigel tell Karen her sexuality &quot;intimidates&quot; younger voters. People will vote for her b/c of her personality and if she&#039;s a good dancer. I think Channing is beautiful and sexy and strong but Nigel called her an &quot;ice-maiden&quot; this morning, in my book that&#039;s just not cool, especially coming from someone like Nigel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ben Franklin, I get what you&#8217;re saying, but calling teenage girls the stupidest people on the planet and that girls are horribly hypocritical about sexuality is way harsh. We recognize that the target audience of SYTYCD is female, but it doesn&#8217;t mean that we should have to listen to Nigel tell Karen her sexuality &#8220;intimidates&#8221; younger voters. People will vote for her b/c of her personality and if she&#8217;s a good dancer. I think Channing is beautiful and sexy and strong but Nigel called her an &#8220;ice-maiden&#8221; this morning, in my book that&#8217;s just not cool, especially coming from someone like Nigel.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Men won&#039;t resent Hugh Jackman...errrr, Ryan, because he&#039;s sexual like dumb bimbos are intimidated by the sexy and talented Karen. 

It&#039;s the same reason a &quot;sexy&quot; male dancer like Dimitri or Pasha will last forever, but Anya and Asuka will be voted off quickly. All 4 are the same type of sexy dancers (yes, I&#039;m straight, but I know what sexy is, man or woman)

Let&#039;s face it, most voters are little teenage girls, gay guys, and gay guy&#039;s friends that are girls. 

Girls are horribly hypocritical about sexuality, and not to mention; teenage girls are the stupidest people on the planet. How else do you explain Miley Ray Cyrus?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Men won&#8217;t resent Hugh Jackman&#8230;errrr, Ryan, because he&#8217;s sexual like dumb bimbos are intimidated by the sexy and talented Karen. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s the same reason a &#8220;sexy&#8221; male dancer like Dimitri or Pasha will last forever, but Anya and Asuka will be voted off quickly. All 4 are the same type of sexy dancers (yes, I&#8217;m straight, but I know what sexy is, man or woman)</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it, most voters are little teenage girls, gay guys, and gay guy&#8217;s friends that are girls. </p>
<p>Girls are horribly hypocritical about sexuality, and not to mention; teenage girls are the stupidest people on the planet. How else do you explain Miley Ray Cyrus?</p>
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		<title>By: CoffeyCup</title>
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		<dc:creator>CoffeyCup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what was really bugging Nigel was probably the number of votes Nathan and Mollee got despite their absymal salsa. Even though it is America&#039;s favorite dancer, he doesn&#039;t want it to be based solely on popularity. I think he is dreading a sort of SYTYCD version of  AI&#039;s Sanjaya with voting.

I think Nigel was not lashing out at Nathan or trying to rain on Karen so much as lashing out at the preteen girls who voted for Nathan/Mollee. They just got caught in the cross-fire of Nigel&#039;s rant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what was really bugging Nigel was probably the number of votes Nathan and Mollee got despite their absymal salsa. Even though it is America&#8217;s favorite dancer, he doesn&#8217;t want it to be based solely on popularity. I think he is dreading a sort of SYTYCD version of  AI&#8217;s Sanjaya with voting.</p>
<p>I think Nigel was not lashing out at Nathan or trying to rain on Karen so much as lashing out at the preteen girls who voted for Nathan/Mollee. They just got caught in the cross-fire of Nigel&#8217;s rant.</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, haha I haven&#039;t forgotten that women are the most common voters! I&#039;m one of them! I am just trying to figure out why he never said anything to Anya about her sensuality being &quot;intimidating&quot; to voters (I mean, if we didn&#039;t have Anya we wouldn&#039;t have a Hot Tamale Train!) I don&#039;t remember it coming up when she and Danny were in the bottom 3 three weeks in a row.

@CoffeyCup, I get what you&#039;re saying, but for Nigel, why not rationalize that they had a tough draw with a dance unfamiliar to the audience, they went first, and compared to some of the other dances (Jakob/Ashieigh, Noelle/Russell) it wasn&#039;t quite as memorable. I don&#039;t know, maybe it&#039;s me, I just haven&#039;t quite warmed up to Karen yet. 

@Rachel, I agree that the mention of the divorce was odd, and it felt out of place in comparison to everyone else. I&#039;m not entirely sure what they were trying to accomplish with that.

@Curtis, I really like Kevin! I took to him during Vegas when Mia pointed out how beautiful his contemporary technique was and how he rocked in hip hop. He killed it in their hip hop number, but the praise went to Karen. I think Karen is a beautiful dancer, but give the guy some credit! I hope having the new choreographer is exactly what they need to rebound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, haha I haven&#8217;t forgotten that women are the most common voters! I&#8217;m one of them! I am just trying to figure out why he never said anything to Anya about her sensuality being &#8220;intimidating&#8221; to voters (I mean, if we didn&#8217;t have Anya we wouldn&#8217;t have a Hot Tamale Train!) I don&#8217;t remember it coming up when she and Danny were in the bottom 3 three weeks in a row.</p>
<p>@CoffeyCup, I get what you&#8217;re saying, but for Nigel, why not rationalize that they had a tough draw with a dance unfamiliar to the audience, they went first, and compared to some of the other dances (Jakob/Ashieigh, Noelle/Russell) it wasn&#8217;t quite as memorable. I don&#8217;t know, maybe it&#8217;s me, I just haven&#8217;t quite warmed up to Karen yet. </p>
<p>@Rachel, I agree that the mention of the divorce was odd, and it felt out of place in comparison to everyone else. I&#8217;m not entirely sure what they were trying to accomplish with that.</p>
<p>@Curtis, I really like Kevin! I took to him during Vegas when Mia pointed out how beautiful his contemporary technique was and how he rocked in hip hop. He killed it in their hip hop number, but the praise went to Karen. I think Karen is a beautiful dancer, but give the guy some credit! I hope having the new choreographer is exactly what they need to rebound.</p>
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		<title>By: Curtis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He wasn&#039;t being sexist, he was just horny lol. But, you have a point with the judges! It pisses me off because Kevin tries so hard and does sooooooo good, and then he&#039;s just pushed back in the shadow! Maybe, they should pair up Ryan and Karen! 

p.s. SHES DIVORCED?!?! WHAT?! When did this happen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He wasn&#8217;t being sexist, he was just horny lol. But, you have a point with the judges! It pisses me off because Kevin tries so hard and does sooooooo good, and then he&#8217;s just pushed back in the shadow! Maybe, they should pair up Ryan and Karen! </p>
<p>p.s. SHES DIVORCED?!?! WHAT?! When did this happen?</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CoffeyCup,  i agree that the divorce mention was odd.  I&#039;m not sure if thats going to win her any fans.  The judges seem to favor her, but they&#039;re not doing a very good job of marketing her to the voting population.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CoffeyCup,  i agree that the divorce mention was odd.  I&#8217;m not sure if thats going to win her any fans.  The judges seem to favor her, but they&#8217;re not doing a very good job of marketing her to the voting population.</p>
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		<title>By: CoffeyCup</title>
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		<dc:creator>CoffeyCup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t thnk Nigel was being any more sexist than his usual self. I think he was just trying to rationalize why Karen and Kevin were in the bottom 3 when they (especially she) are judge&#039;s favorites. It was a little odd bringing up the divorce as &quot;something America should know&quot;. But I did notice the previous week that Karen kinda carefully didn&#039;t mention auditioning with her husband during the background interview. I guess they figured better to get it into the open than have it come out later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t thnk Nigel was being any more sexist than his usual self. I think he was just trying to rationalize why Karen and Kevin were in the bottom 3 when they (especially she) are judge&#8217;s favorites. It was a little odd bringing up the divorce as &#8220;something America should know&#8221;. But I did notice the previous week that Karen kinda carefully didn&#8217;t mention auditioning with her husband during the background interview. I guess they figured better to get it into the open than have it come out later.</p>
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